Tribes Cavalry

[hithero]

These are fantastically fine detailed models but I'm afraid there are some bad points which I would like ebob to consider when he does the next mounted models.

When I first saw that the models would come in two parts cut at the waist, I thought that a fantastic idea and the poses would be practically unlimited, unfortunately this is not the case. The size and shapes at the waist join varies immensly and it is immpossible to fit certain halves together and many look like the body is way to short for the legs or there is a flat ring around the waist where the body is to small for the legs. These need to be more uniform so will fit better and have more pose possibilities.

The seperate hands are too fiddly for the inexperienced modeller, these really need pinning to stop them falling off on the table top.

Any chance of having the body and hands as a sort of ball joint rather than flat to make joins stronger without pinning?

The bases are only half as deep as the GW bases and so need replacing to give more uniformity to the armies.

[eBob]

Thanks for the feedback - I hope you'll post some pics of the finished (painted) articles also.

To address the points you raise - I agree some bodies don't work in certain combinations - and this was unfortunate and not intended and this could have been better.
The reason for the separate upper torsos was not actually for diversity - but was so that the legs of the rider where moulded onto the horse - the best (only) way to get a perfect fit of rider to horse. Diversity was a handy bonus. In this way I was able to still cast the horse in one piece rather than dividing the horse down the middle - which can give a difficult and often nasty join that requires much filling.

Attaching the hands is tricky.. I'd say though that these minis are very detailed and no best suited to the beginner in anycase. Again I agree the fit is not ideal.

Regarding pinning - it is totally unesessary to pin. I have glued 20 of these together with nothing more than superglue and in two instances I used a small amount of green. Using green as blue tack gives a good join and if it should subsequently come appart - superglue will fix it permanently. Ball joints - as you should have found with some of the GW figures give a terrible surface for superglue to work.

Superglue works best when no air is present - and two flat surfaces will give a permanent bond. If you clean the surfaces with a knife and allow the glue to set properly you will have no need of pinning at all.

Regarding the bases - the 40mm bases I have are the only available alternative to the GW bases - and since I cannot resell GW bases as they are copyright (and expensive) - not that I would necessarily require to match GW bases as my minis can be used with any gaming system. I have no strong opinion as the 40mm GW bases are deeper than the GW 25mm bases anyway - so there is no uniformity across GW bases in any case.

I prefer the lower profile base personally because the base is there to stand the figure up - the GW bases raise the height of mini by nearly 5mm.

[Olofer]

I think that one of the best things about those riders are the horses, they are muscular and wild looking, like real, working horses that spend all their time running should look like.

It's very unrealistic that warriors horses would look like some of the GW horses do, for example, the thin Rohan horses. Warriors horses are steady and strong, great job!
Unfortunately the tribes doesn't fit in my collection, but if you make other kinds of riders in the future, sculpt them the same way! (Romans, Vikings, Knights?)

[thedragon]

I agree with the first point, but surely some variation is better than none at all?

I agree- they are very fiddly. I lost one of the spears.

I disagree about the bases. I think they're better than GW ones. They're a lot harder to work with but the small and large holes give lots of room for variation of positioning.

They are very nice though. Top marks. A great Christmas present.

[glorfunzel]

With a little use of Green Stuff its really easy to assemble the mounted Tribes.
I like the models very much.
My only suggestion for a next model would be to make some of the swords and spears a bit more stronger. Some swords are really thin.

What I like most about the models is that they fit perfectly to the look of the ********** and the ******** range of **.
Other companies sell ancient and medieval models, too but they are not as detailed or the poses are very unnatural.

[faramirsmumma]

Glorfunzel - Please note that Ebob is a rival company to GW, and as such, any resemlence to GW figures or whatnot is merely a coincidence.

[eBob]

It is no coincidence in this instance as it happens, I have made miniatures based on Mongolian warriors - and GW have recently used similar references - however, my greens were begun some 9 months past before any indication was forthcoming from GW that similar miniatures were afoot. However, it is wise not to invite such comparisons. I hope that from this moment on, my miniatures will stand on their own merits and not merely as some faximile.

I intend to continue this range of medieval warriors and their counterparts.

[faramirsmumma]

Well said Ebob, how very true.

People do not make comparisions to WarMachine minis, or Hasselfree minis to GW ones, so lets base Ebob's fantastic scuplts in their own league.

[glorfunzel]

Ok, ok. I meant they look very realistic and can be used as alternative armies in several games in the world.

Other companies create minis which have a unnatural stiff kind of look.

I just finished assembling the models. I hope your plans for the future will come true soon.

[eBob]

Thanks mate - good to see you by the way - and I have registered for Nottingham - but now I am scared because I have a whole army to paint!

[glorfunzel]

Me too. But I have to change my army a bit. I think I will go for a few more infantry models. Your army taught me respect of Moria Goblins!

I hope your trip back to the UK was fun.

[Dead Orc]

Ebob plays goblins, Anywhere we can see your army? Do you have your own custom leaders and such? I'd love to see that.

[fatty-bolger]

i know this is quite an old post but, what weapons do you get with them. as i think i have misplaced some of mine. so i know what i am missing and are not missing. but if i am missing a few of them is there anyway to buy some off you? as im one of these fussey poeple that has to have complete sets of things and nothing can be missing. don't know why im like that i just am.

[hithero]

Yeah, I seemed to be missing a few scabbards to.

[Orth]

i have had to look hard at your pics to see where the scabbards and bows go. maybe a little assembly guide, on your website or in a booklet with the minis, would help?

on a possitive note, these are pretty much my favourite miniatures on my collection now, great work, cant wait for the drummer (and anything else)